The following was originally posted on the Internet by me on http://www.misterpoll.com, on the poll entitled, Depantsing Boys.
I had posted this message in response to threats from 'Ouched' (who threatened to strip my best friend, Libby, naked in public) and 'Dr. Spank' (who we later found out to be Danny McDonald, a senior at our high school). Danny had posted see-thru clothes photos of a girl who resembled Libby on the Internet as a prelude to eventually posting actually nude pics of her.
Yes, it's true that I made a total fool of myself by my public dare to 'Dr. Spank' to post nude photos of us online if he had them (which I really didn't believe existed, since the jerks took them without our knowledge while we showered at school and I had never allowed anyone to take nude photos of me before, not even my boyfriend). But I'd rather suffer that humiliation again than have any regrets over fighting back against the jerks who sexually harassed us.
TO OUCHED, DR SPANK and everyone else
Posted on 2003-10-13 11:53:52
note: originally posted on Mister Poll
I really didn't want to have to write this post. I couldn't
sleep all night just thinking about it. But given all the
recent verbal abuse Libby has been taking on this board lately
-- most especially from the guy who calls himself Ouched --
and now threats from someone else (Dr Spank) about possible
nude pics of her circulating about, I have to post this even
though it is very embarrassing personally to me and someone
else dear to me. But, Libby is my best friend and if I can't
do this, then what kind of friend am I? I'm glad there's no
school today because of the holiday. So, Libby, my brother and
I are going out all day today and have some fun.
There's a reason why I wasn't present when Libby and four
of our girlfriends depantsed that "obnoxious "Mark" kid early last year."
I didn't WANT to be there that day after school because
Mark (actually his name is Matt) is my kid brother. He's two
years younger than I am. I knew what was going to happen to
him -- I had actually helped planned it with our older
brother, Libby and the other girls -- but I didn't want to
make him have that extra embarrassment of his sister (me)
seeing him totally nude, too. (I didn't know at the time that
my older brother's girlfriend or that Matt's girlfriend was
going to be there, too, and see him nude. I was really hoping
it wouldn't come to that - him getting stripped - but he
passed up every opportunity to avoid it.)
Libby came over to the house yesterday and her and I had a
long talk with Matt. He never knew that Libby had posted a few
relatively anonymous details about last year's incident on
MisterPoll. I was the one that found MisterPoll and told Libby
about it. I enjoyed teasing Blushing Bill and thought Libby
would, too. And has she ever! (Billy, if you're reading this,
you haven't any idea of the laughs we have all had at your
But, Libby never dreamed that just mentioning the incident
with Matt would blow up into such an issue that some - like
Ouched and Dr Spank - seem to think it is. At first, Matt was
a little upset about being mentioned (even though Libby
changed his first name to Mark in the postings), but we had
him read ALL the posts here, including all the threats, verbal
abuse, etc., to Libby. That's what REALLY made him upset.
Libby really feels bad now that she made those comments about Matt's
genitals. She was just playfully answering JustinKid's
question and never dreamed that Matt would ever see it or that
anyone would possibly know that her comment was about HIM.
When he read that post he blushed as red as could be, then
quipped to Libby that he had actually grown a bit in the past
Libby then asked him if seeing her totally naked would make
him feel any better. That really broke the ice and we all had
a good laugh. Then, without even waiting for an answer, Libby
quickly lifted off her blouse and threw it aside and said Matt
could take off her bra and everything else she had on if he
wanted to. I was shocked! Libby is far from being any sort of
exhibitionist. But Matt politely declined (although he clearly
enjoyed looking at Libby's bra-covered breasts for those few
minutes) and blushed that although he sure wouldn't mind
seeing Libby totally nude, he didn't want her to be
embarrassed by stripping for him and, in any case, was afraid
it would affect their friendship. Libby said she really meant
it; she'd totally strip for him if he wanted her to and she
began to unclip her bra. But, Matt reached out to stop her and
then hugged her tightly. He assured her that he isn't even the
least bit mad at her (or the other girls, for that matter) and
then we all had a good cry together.
Even though Libby saw him naked and engaged in the
stripping of him, he still highly respects her - and I mean a
lot, too. He's always treated her almost like an older sister,
sometimes I think he actually respects her more than me! She's
over our house a lot and, although he still shows a tinge of
embarrassment in her presence now and then, he can easily talk
to her, joke with her, is one of her biggest fans and rooters
at our school's girl softball games when Libby's pitching and
we all go out together to movies, shopping and such. He also
knows darn well, and said it again yesterday when we sat down
and had that long chat, that he was more ashamed and
embarrassed at WHY he was stripped than of actually BEING
I hadn't wanted to post all the details about the incident
earlier because there are a few kids at school who know about
MisterPoll and it would be embarrassing to both myself and
Matt for them to read all this, now knowing that Mark is
actually Matt and is my brother, not just some other kid at
school or a similar incident at some other unnamed school that
they wouldn't be sure of given Matt's name switch.
No one at school actually knows what happened to Matt
except the girls that were there, my brother and his
girlfriend, Matt's now ex-girlfriend and myself. Not even the
girl who Matt was - teasing isn't exactly the right word, more
like tormenting - knows that he was stripped and bared from
the waist down in front of seven girls because of what he had
been doing to her. Yes, he's still embarrassed when he sees
the other girls at school (as Libby has previously mentioned),
especially Belinda. But, they don't tease him or anything,
partly because he's my brother, partly because they know he's
really changed and learned a lesson, partly because future
teasing of him wasn't the reason he got exposed to them in the
first place and partly because he made good on his promise to
apologize to the overweight girl in question.
Contrary to what Ouched says he all his name-calling,
inuendo and threatening postings to and about Libby -- of
course, granted, how would he know all these details before
now anyway? -- Matt was not just teasing the girl and calling
Not long after starting 9th grade last year, Matt started
picking on this overweight girl. I don't want to say her name
and embarrass her even further, although anyone at our school
who might be reading this probably now knows who I am
referring to. She's overweight because of a medical condition,
not because she pigs out all the time or anything like that.
Guys, gals - whoever reads this. Come on, be decent. Just keep
the details to yourself. There's no need to remind her of the
torment she went through.
Anyway, our stepdad was really giving us all a hard time
when all this was going on. I really don't want to go into the
details, this is all painful, embarrassing and hard enough as
it is. Our parents finally divorced last spring. But, Matt
just wasn't getting the guidance he should have been getting
as a growing boy. He's actually not a bad kid, he's not into
drugs, guns or anything like that. He gets good grades, etc.
It's hard to explain, but any kid whose parents have gone
through a divorce knows what I'm talking about. He's my
brother and I love him a lot. But, that shouldn't excuse him
for what he was doing to this girl.
The overweight girl never did anything to him. Even he told
us so when we first confronted him about it. He just started
picking on her because she was overweight. He can't even
explain now how it started, it just did, perhaps egged on by a
few of his then-friends. Since I'm two grades ahead of Matt, I
didn't even know myself what was going on for about a month.
Until one day after school, which I'll explain in a
I asked Matt if he would mind me describing all this on the
post, even knowing that other kids at school, particularly the
girls, who didn't know quite everything he was doing to this
girl, might end up reading about it. But, he told me to go
ahead, because he didn't want to see Libby hurt because of
what he had started. He was especially concerned that his new
girlfriend might dump him, too, if she knew about everything
that happened last year. Libby and I assured him that we would
- along with the other girls, if necessary - talk to her this
week and assure her that he's actually a really neat kid and
what he did last year was just some sort of aberration because
of a rather upsetting domestic situation. He just needed to be
taught an embarrassing lesson. We told him if she couldn't
understand this and forgive him then she wasn't good enough
for him anyway. He agreed and told me to spell it all out,
even if it causes him some more embarrassment.
Matt was doing far more than just making one or two cow
jokes and mooing at the girl. That itself went on steady, day
in and day out for nearly two months. He also printed up
various color pictures of cows and altered them, replacing the
cow's head in the photo with the girl's photo (he used their
8th grade yearbook photo). He would then show these to his
friends or slip them into the girl's locker. He also printed
up nude pics of heavy, overweight women he found on the net
and again switched the heads, as if to insinuate that the
photos were of the overweight girl in a totally naked
It was really embarrassing to me and our older brother when
we found out about all of this. I still don't understand how I
was so oblivious at first, and neither does our older brother.
My older brother graduated last June is in college now and may
get married to his girlfriend (who also saw Matt nude that
day). Matt and his ex-girlfriend broke up after all that.
Libby and I had a long talk with her, filling her in the next
day about everything Matt and done, but about why she
shouldn't dump him. She was actually willing - though still
upset with him - to get back together with him and told him
so, but Matt was the one who was too embarrassed to do so, not
because of his being totally exposed, but embarrassed and
ashamed of himself for what he had been doing to the
overweight girl. They're still friends, but not in a
boyfriend/girlfriend way anymore.
One day about a month into all of this, Libby and I had
found the overweight girl hiding behind one of our school's
storage sheds. She was crying and crying and was having a hard
time even catching her breath. That's when we found out what
Matt did that day and what he had been doing. In front of
about four or five other guys at lunch that day, he walked up
to her with an empty milk carton, said "Mooooo! Got milk?",
suddenly reached out and squeezed the girl's breasts through
her top. She told us she tried to smack him, but missed and
with the guys all laughing at her, she ran away crying,
skipping the day's final two classes. She finally had the
courage to complain about it to the assistant principal
towards the end of the day. But his attitude was basically
"boys will be boys", then even had the gall to tell her that
perhaps she could avoid the teasing by losing a few pounds.
She even got punished for skipping the two classes.
Libby, my older brother (Bobby) and I had a long talk with my
younger brother after school on the day we found the girl
crying at school. But instead of apologizing to the girl (and
we warned him exactly what would happen to him if he didn't),
he just kept it up and up and up. He even started bringing a
cowbell to school and would shake it when the girl walked past
him at lunch, recess, after school, etc. Libby and I had
promised the girl we would take care of it, but talking just
didn't work. Neither did threats of an embarrassing
The girl herself told us her grades were suffering and that
her parents told her the teasing was no excuse for her not
doing her homework, getting bad grades, etc. She said she was
having trouble sleeping at night and dreaded the thought of
going to school each day. Her parents wouldn't allow her to
switch schools, either.
We also couldn't very well tell my parents about all of
this because our step dad would have given Matt a cruel
beating. And I don't mean just a couple of slaps, either. I
mean the kind of stuff that sends parents to jail - or should
Nothing else seemed to work, but his nude humiliation in
front of the girls did. Our older brother even gave him a
choice while Libby and the girls held him down on the ground;
he could still apologize to the overweight girl, but he chose
not to (he says now he thought they were just bluffing, but
not very convincingly; I think he was just too ashamed to have
to apologize to the girl). My older brother said Matt could
tell our mom and step-dad, but he didn't want to do that,
either (I'm actually glad he didn't, because his punishment
would have been far worse than having seven girls see him
Like Libby said in one of her posts, the next day Matt
brought flowers and a box of candy to the girl and apologized
to her. He told me after school that she was stunned; she
didn't have a clue as to why he was suddenly was treating her
nice and he was way to embarrassed to tell her why, probably
because she wouldn't believe he was sincere but was just being
forced to apologize. He said he cried in front of her as he
recounted the mean things he had done to her. And she forgave
him! They never became friends or anything like that. But, the
guys teased him a little bit, thinking that all of a sudden he
had the hots for her or something, especially given that they
weren't seeing him with his now ex-girlfriend. But, no one
knew the whole story, until now.
The problem with dumbasses like you, Ouched, and you, Dr
Spank, just two don't get it! It seems at times that nobody
gives a s--- about girls like this or the many others that all
constantly sexually harassed, constantly grabbed, constantly
fondled and constantly verbally abused by boys at school. Not
the f------ school boards, not the f------ principals, not the
f------ teachers and certainly not the f------ two of you.
Blushing Billy seems to be understand this. That's why
Libby and I were so glad to see him post those news reports
about school officials actually doing skirt-flippings,
bra and panty checks - in full view of male students,
faculty and even a couple of cops!
Mandy seems to understand this. That's why she probably
included the options to describe the boys who get depantsed in
the poll, i.e. "just getting what they deserve."
Yes, I've teased Billy on this board. But Ouched, you've
even said that he seems to enjoy it, while at the same time
condemning me and Libby for teasing him (bashing us for
teasing guys about their genitals, to be specific). Yet by
your other comments, you seem to think that such teasing is
o.k. when the person being teased doesn't really mind. So,
what's the big deal? Billy, if you in the least feel offended,
I'm very sorry. I truely mean that.
Also, our school had a few rape incidents about five or six
years back. But, the attitude just didn't change; not by the
school officials and not by the boys. Until some of the girls,
like myself, Libby and a few others, decided enough was
I've already described for everyone one of the depantsing
incidents, actually the first guy I depantsed (not including
the little brat who pulled off my top in the
swimming pool). Given all of Ouched's rants and rages about
'sexual assualt' accusations towards Libby, everyone should
notice that he didn't condemn the guy who had been fondling my butt and the
butts of several other girls before me - AGAINST OUR WILL.
Guess he doesn't think THAT is sexual assualt! Oh, but because
I defended myself and depantsed the guy down to his jockstrap,
I'm now some mean bitch who, like Libby, should be stripped bare in front of
And, now, this Dr Spank creep is threatening to post nude pics
of Libby all over the place. I'm apparently on his target
list, too, given what he said about me. Like Libby, I
don't believe him, either. And, not to brag, but I'm certainly
anything but "flat as an ironing board." Just as Libby dared
you to, Dr Spank, if you think you have nude pics of me, go
ahead and post them! Plaster these supposed-nude photos of me
all of the f------ internet. Go ahead and give them away to
every guy at school. But, you can't, because you don't have
Here's another depantsing incident that I was way too
embarrassed to discuss but will now. Last year, a new guy at
[this was Danny McDonald - who we later found out later was the little worm posting on Mister Poll as 'Dr Spank']
cornered me in an upstairs empty hallway after school
and reached up under my top and started fondling my breasts,
saying he heard about how I had depantsed the guy for
butt-grabbing me in gym class and that he was sure he could
handle anything I could dish out to him. I tried pushing him
and yelled at him to get away from me, if he knew what was
good for him. I had to struggle with him at first, because he
was a bit bigger than me. But after giving him a somewhat weak
knee to his groin, I gave him a good sock to his guts, then
depantsed him - all he was wearing underneath his sweats was a
jock strap. But, unfortunately, he wasn't embarrassed and he
responded by trying to rip my top off by pulling it over my head, completely
exposing my bra in the process, and then nearly pulling my bra off as well by
completely exposing my left breast and nearly all of my right breast as well.
That's when I said to hell with
this and kicked him in his balls with all my might. He went
down in a heep, calling me a slut, bitch and everything else
in the book. That's when we noticed that one of our teachers
(a female) was standing at the top of the stairs and saw the
whole thing! Yet, she hadn't said a word and merely walked by
us, merely nodding at me like as if to say 'good job', and smirked at the guy as he tried
to cover himself (oh, NOW he was embarrassed). I then pulled my bra back up and over what it was supposed to cover and pulled my top back down from over the back of my head. After the teacher
passed and entered one of the classrooms, I then grabbed the
guy by his hair (on top of his head, that is) and told him if
he ever came within 10 feet of me again, he'd get far worse
than what I had just did to him. I then ripped his sweatpants
wide open from the crotch to the rear and walked off. A couple
of the guys confronted him a few days later (he had the
stupidity to admit what he did to me to them, describing my
breasts to them) and they beat the daylights out of him. He
has stayed away from me ever since.
Libby knew what had happened to me. That's why she was so
upset when Ouched asked,
Posted on 2003-10-08 06:02:02
What would you do if a guy you depantsed was very well-endowed, and not the least bit embarrased by you checking him out? Maybe even a bit aroused?
Also, how would you like it if some guy depantsed you in front a bunch of guys? Your shorts and panties both, so that all the guys got a good look at what you have downstairs, front and back? Would you be a bit aroused? Or would you retaliate somehow?
So, that's why she made the comment, "I can take care of
myself pretty good - and the guys know it. But, if not... can
you say 'Lorena Bobbit'?"
In [the hypothetical] situation such as Ouched described, any girl who
wouldn't have a real fear of being gang-raped would have to be
drunk or on something.
But, what did Ouched say to Libby in reply [to her answer to a hypothetical situation]?
He directly threatened her:
Re: Answers for Ouched
Posted on 2003-10-09 05:58:53
It sounds to me like there isnt anyone in the whole world who deserves it more than you, my dear Libby...
Someday, God willing, I am going to strip you naked and send you home blushing red...and I bet there will be several guys there cheering for me and taking some picturs of their own! Can you say "internet porn"?
So, because a girl might feel threatened of being raped and
therefore states she'll do whatever is necessary to defend
herself, she should as a result be made into some Internet
Even after several others critized Ouched for actually personally threatening Libby, he refused to back down from what he said:
Posted on 2003-10-09 22:40:00
You a sexist pig if nothing else.
From what you say you have done, and condone, aganist boys, I think you should definately experience those things for yourself. Perhaps you wont be so quick to pass out judgement on others. You have been very quick to say others should have to endure at your hands; it's only appropriate that you should experience it yourself.
Ouched then critized me because I said I was quite willing to make
fun of a guy's genitals AFTER he makes a crude comment towards me, i.e. a guy who
rudely tells a girl that, because of her 'attitude', she has
PMS, that's o.k. in his eye's. But, if the girl, like I did,
responds by saying that the GUY is really the one with PMS -
'Puny Male Syndrome', which is also more commonly referred to
as one who has a 'Puny Male Scrotum', I'm now some abuser and
hypocrite [and suggested this kind of discussion occur]:
Posted on 2003-10-09 22:57:22
You go out of your way to make fun of guys who are "smaller" though dont you? So it's only ok if girls do it eh? Lets start a discaussion about YOUR genitals and see how you handle it.
And OUCHED accuses US of holding double standards?
No, neither Libby or I believe that stripping anyone (girls
or boys) is o.k., except when the jackasses who gets their
pants and/or underwear pulled down had been doing similar
things to girls AGAINST THEIR WILL. Ouched and Dr Spank know
very damned well about what kind of abuse I'm talking about.
They just don't think it's any big deal. Many guys don't,
either. They think all the breast-pinching, butt-grabbing, and
skirt-flipping they do is nothing but harmless "flirting".
Well, it's not -- not when the girl doesn't like it, not when
it's constant and not when no one else gives a damn about
doing anything to stop it. She shouldn't even have to tell him
afterwards. It just shouldn't be done!
Notice how Ouched never indicates to anyone what he thinks
the punishment should be for such offenses to girls? Why?
Because he doesn't think there should be any punishment.
Well, that's all I have to say for now. If Ouched and Dr
Spank finally can get a clue, then fine. If not, to hell with
Was I right, or did I deserve to have full-frontal nude photos of me posted on the Internet?
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